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Crichton and Aeryn: not
kissing because it's too tricky to explain to the kids
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A Human
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Home on the Remains
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A Clockwork Nebari
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Scratch 'n' Sniff
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John Quixote
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Crichton takes Scorpius
along to make the tough decisions in an alternate reality
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Rather
disconcertingly, Ben Browder seems to be unaware of how the concept of interviewing works.
"How are ya?" he asks, before I've had a chance to say anything. "How's Blighty
these days?" Er, it's very nice. Quite sunny at the moment, actually. "Oh good. I'm
glad to hear that. That's just the climate, not the political climate.
A-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho," he says, with a fake laugh. There's a war on at this point, you
see. "It's all very complicated. Or maybe it's really simple, I'm just refusing to see
how simple it is. But it seems to me to be the path we've been heading down for the last, oh,
50 years?" he chuckles. "I was trying to explain war to one of my children the other
day, and it's a hard one to explain. When you have difficulty explaining something to your
child, you know it's a complicated subject matter. 'Daddy, why do you kiss that other woman on
TV?' 'It's complicated... That's what I do for a living."'
Is that enough
explanation for them? "They like Claud [Claudia Black]," he laughs. "They're
probably cognisant that what I do is pretend, because in addition to kissing women, pointing
guns at people, blowing up things, killing thousands of people is another one to explain;
actually, it's slightly more difficult to explain away. Although I have to say that kissing
women was much more difficult to explain to my grandmother when she was alive." He
switches into a broad, croaky Texan accent. "'Ben, you're a married man, you shouldn't be
kissing them women on TV'. 'Okay grandmother, I gotcha. That's what I do for a living.' 'What
does that make you, a whore?"' He throws in a sigh. "'Well basically, grandma, I
think you're right, that's what I do for a living, I'm a whore."' Actually, now he's
brought it up, would he get paid more if he was in that particular line of work? "You
know, I've never stopped to figure that out. I don't know, I guess it depends on how long I'm
actually doing the kissing. On a per-hour basis I'm stretching it out probably less..."
I wonder if he's
ever had one of his kids ask if they can swap their real Mummy for the nice lady off the TV.
Oooh man, I hope that never happens. Ha ha haaaaa! That would be very bad. I've been using the
line lately that Mummy's evil. I just point to the TV and prove it. 'Mummy's evil, look, see?
She's evil. This is what it's like in the morning before the make-up comes on."'
Francesca Buller, Browder's wife, was playing Ahkna, the latest of several Farscape roles, at
the end of the fourth season. "That's the first time she's gone in with no make-up!
" insists Browder unwisely, before adding, "No, Fran's brilliant. She's brilliant as
War Minister Ahkna. It's great when Francesca's on set. What's interesting, though, is that
all the crew would call her 'The Boss'. 'Is the Boss working today?' 'Yes, my boss is working
today'."
Well, we seem to have
finally reached the subject of Farscape. "You'd better ask some questions, otherwise I'll
go off and be talking about the weather and the political situation, and there's probably not
much you're gonna want to print," warns Browder. "Y'know, if I had an opinion I'd
tell ya," he says when I suggest a box-out on war. "I'm afraid I'm not firm in my
opinions on this one. There's a crapload of grey area on both sides that needs addressing, and
I honestly believe that. I've listened to arguments from both sides, I understand the
arguments from both sides and I see the validity of what it is they're saying, but like most
things with passion, which war really is, there's not much room for discussion. I don't think
you can make logical arguments. It's gotta be the most absurd activity that Human beings
engage in, mass conflict. My God. It boggles the imagination."
In the meantime, since the demise of Farscape, Browder
has had auditioning to keep him busy, but it's not all plain sailing. "Well, Farscape is
either the best calling card in the world or the most useless calling card in the world.
People who know the show, who are aware of the show, are pretty damn enthusiastic about it:
'Oh, love the show! , And the other response is 'Far-what?' It's not on everybody's radar.
When it's off the radar in Hollywood, it just doesn't matter. I really can't complain because
at least it's been interesting."
On the subject of
Farscape's conclusion, there was a lot of talk of Season Four alienating new viewers, thereby
causing the lack of ratings improvement that would have rescued the show. "I think that
the numbers indicate we came out relatively even on that score. It was a desire from the
network to reach a broader audience, so we started with fewer characters and rebuilt and
reintroduced the show. That led to a frustration storytelling-wise for some of the long-term
audience. We were working on a two-season plan, not a one- season plan as far as advancing the
big story. So where we end up at the end of Season Four, we're halfway resolved on a number of
issues. Whether we handled it well or not, I don't know. I couldn't say." Does Browder
knows what was to come next? "I know some of the plans, yeah, yeah. I know a fair amount
of the character stuff, yeah, I'm certainly aware of it.
"[Producers] David
Kemper and Ricky Manning and Rock O'Bannon could tell you the plan; we're not obligated not to
tell you, but I don't think it serves any purpose for me to tell you what the plan was because
I think the hope is that at some point the story will continue; the audience will get to find
out then. I would hate to be accused [by the fans]: 'He lied to us when he said this was the
plan!' Depending on when it's told, that could change. It depends on what future incarnation
of Farscape evolves; that is dependent upon somebody with a bagful of money figuring out that
there are a lot of people that still wanna see more of the story.
Having said that, I
think there is a certain poetry in the way that Season Four ends. If it is the end, I think
there's great poetry in that finally you have a moment of happiness, and just like Farscape,
wham! They get killed. Not just killed, shattered. Reduced to crystal shards."
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He
suddenly gets distracted. "Could you excuse me a moment?"
A
few seconds later, he's back. Did he forget to wash up? He laughs, reiterating his conversation.
"'Hey, here's the thing. Don't forget...' 'Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it, got it, got it.'
'Farscape's over with. Don't forget! ' She's not called the boss for no reason."
Continuing
on the conclusion theme, Browder relates that, "For years I've been saying to David [Kemper],
'Y'know, David, you should pull stuff out of the paper. Someone would bring in something, Discovery
magazine, or Scientific American, going 'This would be an interesting thing to do, we'll just twist
it'. I'm the one that says, 'You know, with all the drive-by shootings..."' He laughs.
"'Really, we should just drive-by shoot a main character, what do you think?' I just didn't think
it was gonna be me!
"I
would love to comment on the fractured ending, but we're in a different realm of possibilities, and
even if they're dead, is [anyone] dead or not? There's a lot of stuff there. Was Jesus Christ dead or
not? The large mythic elements of the series come into play." So now he's saying Crichton turns
out to be Jesus? "Well, his initials . are JC, you know," Browder laughs be- fore proceeding
to point out the similarities: "He's one of the most hated men of his time and place. The empires
want to destroy him, to take what he knows. The large mythic elements in storytelling are similar no
matter what the culture, whether the culture be real or Science Fiction."
Would
the actor have preferred a happier ending to the show? "I don't know. I have to be honest with
you, I don't know what I would prefer. Do I have a problem with the way Season Four ends? No, not at
all. You have closure on a number of elements, and you have a new element introduced."
As to the abrupt conclusion of the series itself, Browder
admits he wasn't best pleased. "No, I wasn't. Career-wise it probably doesn't hurt for me to be
back in LA trying to find something else while I'm still a relatively young man. Being in Australia
was not a great boon for my career. Doing Farscape, however, was a great experience for me, a
fantastic experience and a great opportunity to tell a story, to be involved, to learn. I don't know
of any other character on television that has had the range of things to do that John Crichton has
had. It's this really awesome character that the writers crafted for me '. to do; a fantastic
character. It was a gift; , you don't expect many of those, if any; over 88 episodes you don't expect
to get that kind of boon. I didn't want that story to end, I didn't want those challenges to end, I
didn't really want to leave Australia, which I loved. I didn't want to leave my friends and comrades,
my mates, behind. I went to Australia, didn't know anybody, and I came away with some of the best
mates I'll have in my life. And I miss them. And I knew I was gonna miss them the minute we stopped
shooting, I knew I was going to miss them. Because the day was coming; it always comes."
Is
the actor still in touch with everyone? "I can't keep in touch with everyone, otherwise my phone
bill would be unbelievable! I saw Wayne [Pygram] out for the weekend. Saw David Franklin last week-
end. I talk to Ricky Manning and David Kemper and Justin Monjo from the writing staff, Andrew Prowse,
Tony Tilse, Rowan Woods from the directing staff. They're not really all that accessible be- cause
they're in Australia, most of these people. You can't pop round for a cup of tea, you know? Kind of a
bugger, that."
Before
we finish, Browder wants to make sure I've got everything I need from the interview. "You don't
have to use every- thing," he insists, "just take the bits where , I sound smart and
generous and kind." He laughs. "It's your job to make me look intelligent, man! Or the
opposite is, if you've got a real bone to pick, you can take stuff out and make me look like an idiot.
Depends how you feel that day. So I'm hoping that when you write it, you have a good day. You go for a
massage, have a beer, make sure you haven't had a fight, make sure you've had sex in the last six
hours and then start to write! That's the day I want you to have when you start this article,
man."
He
even has the solution if sex isn't readily available. "Look, it's a business expense!" What,
sex can be written off against tax? "I don't know how the tax board feels about it, but I'm
saying you can. 'Look, it was research! ' You're a writer, you can write about anything, anything is
research. 'I ordered a pizza, it was research be- cause I needed to know how it felt to eat pizza, and
I'm writing a scene about eating pizza.' It's all research, man. That's the great thing about writing;
you never know what's gonna be useful."
Apparently,
he has a back-up plan. "In the letters section say, 'Look, as opposed to the normal letters, I'm
accepting proposals for sex with a guarantee that I will print your letter about how good I was in the
.1 sack'. You're set, man! If you can't use the 1 magazine as a dating service, what's the 1 point in
having one? Look, when I went into acting, I went in because of girls. The theatre chicks were really
cool, and I'm kind of convinced that probably was the main motivation. I did happen to like acting,
but, you know... But really man, theatre chicks were 'Wow'! I liked the theatre chicks! I thought,
'Well, I'll just hang out with them for a while, that'll be a career.' But magazine editing is the
same thing. Am I gonna see you using it as a dating service or not? Are you gonna wimp out on
me?" Okay, now he's scaring me. "I'm just tryin' to protect my interests so you write
something good..."
Looks like if the acting goes quiet, there's always a career as an advice columnist... |